【键盘侠】麦迪如今场均能得40分？|巅峰KD都不行他行吗？
2018-10-29 12:13:04 来源：CCTV5在线直播
Tracy McGrady on him in Today's Game: "I'll average easily 35-40 points a game. Easily. I mean I averaged 32 without even shooting that many 3s... And you can't impeded my progress when I'm running... I'm like come on man."
麦迪谈如今在联盟打球：“我可以轻松场均得到35-40分，我的意思是曾经的我不投那么多三分都能场均得到32分……在我跑动的时候你根本没办法拦住我……我可能会说，‘兄弟，你差一点就追上我了。’”
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[–]WeRightHere 540 points 5 days ago
I can see 35.
我觉得场均35分没什么问题。
[–]TimberwolvesTdotGdot 81 points 4 days ago
Ok, so I think yes, he could have because prime T-Mac was an offensive beast. He averaged 32 a game in 02/03 on 39% from three.
But on the other hand, I'm not sure I buy his logic. He shot 34% from three for his career. Maybe if he played now he would have improved that more, but besides a few outlier seasons he was pretty below average. Also, and this is the big kicker -- during his 32 per game 02/03 season he got to the line 9.7 times per game. For context, Harden got to the line 10.1 times per game last season. I don't really see T-Mac getting many more free throws than he already did during his best season.
Could of have really hit 35? Probably if he wanted to, he was fucking legit. But also, not super clear that his "more 3's and more FTs" story actually lines up. He might have not actually gotten to the line more, and he might not have been a good enough 3PT shooter for more threes to matter much.
森林狼球迷：好吧，我觉得确实没有啥问题，他可能真的场均能拿这么多分数，因为麦迪在进攻端就是个怪兽，他2002-03赛季场均得到32分并且三分线外命中率高达39%。
但是从另一个角度而言，我对他的逻辑并不买账，他职业生涯三分球命中率不过百分之三十四，如果现在打得话可能会提升不少，但是除了几个爆发赛季他的三分球命中率都低于联盟平均值，还有一点很重要——那就是在2002-03赛季他场均32分的那个赛季每场比赛不过上罚球线9.7次，作为参考，哈登上赛季站上罚球线10.1次，我不觉得麦迪能获得比他巅峰赛季更多的罚球。
他真的能上35分这个大关吗？可能如果他想的话确实可以，毕竟他真的很强。但同时，他“能投进更多三分和罚球”的说法并不准确，他可能成不了足够好的三分射手、也得不到更多罚球。
[–]shortyman920 92 points 4 days ago
A few things different tho: - The heavier enphasize on 3 point shots would change his shot selection and development. McGrady would work on his 3 and pick higher value shots. If Blake Griffin can go from free throw scrub to a reliable 3pt shooter. Then Mcgrady can become a good 3pt shooter. - Pace is much higher today and that alone would add more ppg to Tmac. Not to mention his assists would go up. - With Tmac's dribble drive ability, passing, and finishing, I could see him draw as many fouls as Harden. He has the talent and the higher pace would help.
Tmac is a generational talent and probably ranks toward the top if there was a master list of generational talents I can easily 35ppg in his prime scoring year.
有一件事情和当年已经不一样了——现代更多强调三分投射的风格会让他改变自己的投篮技能点与发展方向，麦迪可能会更加注重自己的三分球并且去选择价值更高的投篮，如果格里芬能从中距离怪变成一个可靠的三分手，那么麦迪同样可以成为一个好的三分射手——现在的节奏变得更快了，这只会为麦迪增加更多的场均得分，更不用提他的助攻也会水涨船高，有麦迪这样的运球能力、传球以及终结能力，我觉得他能比哈登造更多的犯规，他有这样的天赋，如今的节奏也可以帮助他们。
麦迪有着跨时代的天赋，如果有球员天赋排行榜他可能会名列前茅，我觉得他的巅峰时刻场均能拿下35分。
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[–]LakersProbablyNotSeth[] 31 points 4 days ago
Last year Harden put up 30.9 ppg. Per 36, he shot 20.4 field gosls. For comparison, in McGardy’s best year (2002-2003) he shot 22.1 fga per 36.
Does the pace of play bump that up to 25 shots? Or would he plateau?
上赛季哈登场均得到30.9分，每36分钟他能出手20.4次，作为对比，麦迪最好的那个赛季他每36分钟出手21.1次。
所以节奏加快能让麦迪出手25次以上？
[–]Steve-5 370 points 5 days ago
I don't know about 40, but he could definitely average 35. T-Mac was a beast in his prime
我不知道他能不能场均得到40分，但是他肯定能得35分以上吧，巅峰麦迪绝对是个怪物。
[–][UTA] Dante ExumSnydernJazzSystem 683 points 5 days ago
TMac has a point.
爵士球迷：麦迪说得有一分道理。
[–]HawksThinkSoftware 401 points 5 days ago
No he has 35-40 points, didn't you read the title?
老鹰球迷：不不不，他说自己能得35-40分，你特么没读标题？
[–][UTA] Dante ExumSnydernJazzSystem 52 points 5 days ago
No, he doesn't have it.
He said he will have it.
Big difference
爵士球迷：不不不，他不是说他得到了这些
他是说他将要得到35-40分
这个区别很大好么？
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[–]WigginsMVP 78 points 5 days ago
Offensive systems are a lot different now, he wouldn't be getting as high a % of the shots he was getting in his prime if he played in a more modern system
进攻体系现在已经完全不同了，如果他在现代的系统打球的话，他可能就没有那么多的出手占比了。
[–]Pistonsqedsquah[] 182 points 5 days ago
You do realize that’s good for him right? He wouldn’t be shooting long twos, more threes, no more two big men in the paint so he could finish at a higher percentage at the rim and most importantly no handchecking.
His shot selection gets better and so his fg% and ppg rises.
你没认识到这实际上有助于他得更多分吗？他不用投那么多长两分，他能命中更多三分，现在没有超过两个大个子呆在油漆区李所以他可以以高命中率在禁区得分，更重要的是没有hand check了。
他的投篮选择会变得更好，所以他的得分和命中率都会提升。
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[–]Raptorsilikeslamdunks 29 points 4 days ago
Is he a better scorer than Harden or Durant? Why are they not averaging 35-40?
猛龙球迷：他是比哈登和杜兰特更好的得分手吗？为啥哈登和杜兰特场均不能得35-40分？
[–]Pistonsqedsquah[] 50 points 4 days ago
TMac is a better scorer than Harden but not Durant. Durant could average near 40 if he wanted to
活塞球迷：麦迪得分能力比哈登强，但是比不上杜兰特，杜兰特如果想的话，他可以场均接近40分。
[–]WigginsMVP 57 points 5 days ago
He wouldn't be getting 24 shot attempts per game is what I mean
我觉得现在这个时代麦迪可能每场比赛出手不了24次啊。
[–]Wizardsireddit270 116 points 5 days ago
Why not? Westbrook takes 22-24 shots per game .. put prime TMac on a bad team and he could do that too .
40ppg a little ridiculous but peak McGrady could average 35ppg for sure if he had no other stars on his team. He could score from all three levels and was a monster in transition. And he's taller than people think (close to 6'10) , there was no realistic way to stop him from getting his shots off in any given game.
奇才球迷：为啥不行？威少每场比赛都能出手22-24次……把巅峰麦迪放在一支烂队他同样可以出手这么多次。
场均40分听起来确实很荒谬，但是巅峰麦迪肯定能场均35分他可以用三威胁得分并且在转换进攻方面是个怪物，他可能比大家想的都要高一些，所以你也没啥现实办法去阻止他得分。
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[–][HOU] Hakeem Olajuwonkyotofly 197 points 5 days ago
If only you didn’t land so hard on one leg on every shot my guy them injuries wouldn’t take u out early
火箭球迷：如果你不是每次投篮都狠狠地单腿落地的话……那些伤病就不会太早的侵蚀你了……
[–][TOR] Tracy McGradyRapidRaptors 234 points 5 days ago
Wdym? He was born with scoliosis, he was bound to get injured. He played to the fullest and I say he made it pretty good considering he was supposed to retire 3 years into his career.
猛龙球迷：说啥呢？他天生脊柱弯曲，受伤几乎不可避免，他已经尽可能拉长自己的职业生涯了，我认为他已经尽可能延长自己的职业生涯了，他本来应该职业生涯开始三年就因伤退役的。
[–]3-1LeadUnanimousMVP 140 points 5 days ago
How would Tmac average 35-40 points a game when even prime KD didn't? What does Tmac do better than KD as far as scoring?
巅峰麦迪咋能得35-40分呢？巅峰杜兰特都不行啊，难道麦迪得分能力比杜兰特还厉害？
[–]babbagack[S] 246 points 5 days ago
KD could average 35 today as well, its just he joined a loaded team so that ain't gonna happen at least now, isn't necessary. wouldn't be surprised if he eventually did had he not joined GS.
KD如今可以场均35分的，只是因为他加入了一支很强的队伍所以这种事情现在还没发生罢了，因为没有必要，如果他没加入勇士的话，他最终场均得到35分我并不会惊讶。
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[–]WeRightHere 48 points 5 days ago*
T-Mac is more aggressive and has better handles.
麦迪更具侵略性，运球也更好。
[–][PHO] Joe Johnsondestructive_optimism 40 points 4 days ago
I hate to see people sleeping on TMac man. KD is one of the greatest scorers of all time, but let’s not pretend prime TMac wasn’t at least neck and neck with KD. TMac had better/cleaner handles, was a better transition player, and was more explosive (both in his first step and his quick twitch, high fucking flying dunks).
76人球迷：我真的讨厌人们对于麦迪视而不见的样子，杜兰特确实是历史级别的得分手，但是不要假装认为巅峰麦迪就不是一个和KD接近的球员，麦迪有着更好的处理球能力，他的转换进攻更好，并且更具爆炸力都很强。
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[–]Lakersso-cal_kid 68 points 5 days ago
He's not wrong. He was arguably the best player in the league at his peak.
湖人球迷：他没说错啊，巅峰麦迪可能是联盟的最佳球员吧。
[–]SupersonicsScizzurp 182 points 5 days ago*
No, he wasn't. He also wouldn't average 40. He would probably average 35 but he is going to take 25+ shots.. McGrady also took 6-7 3's a game in his peak.
超音速球迷：不，他并不是，他也场均得不到40分，他可能场均能得到35分，但是他需要投25次以上，麦迪巅峰场均也要投6到7个三分。
[–]Lakerslakerswiz 55 points 5 days ago
He wasn't. Maybe offensively, but Kobe's defense was All-NBA level and he was a lockdown defender. T Mac never had that level of defense.
湖人球迷：他当时不是联盟最佳，可能进攻端是，但是科比的防守是全联盟一阵级别的，他是一个强大的防守者，麦迪从来没有过那个级别的防守。
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