【键盘侠】球迷热议小卡必须留在东部|就因为西部不能常规划水?
2019-06-10 17:35:31 来源:CCTV5在线直播
Kawhi Leonard Has to Stay in the East.
莱昂纳德必须得留在东部!
The success of Kawhi this post season is directly due to Toronto's ability to manage his load all season. He only played 60 games (Lebron had an actual injury and shut it down at the end of the year and played 55 for reference).
卡哇伊之所以能在今年季后赛有这么抢眼的表现,这是与多伦多在常规赛期间对小卡的负荷管理直接有关的。他只打了60场比赛。
The "only play 60 games, no back to back" stuff won't fly in the stronger western conference where the regular season actually matters. He'd either be forced to play more games (too much load) or end up at a much lower seed (not good). He's never been durable.
这种“只打60场常规赛,不打背靠背”的优待到了实力更强的西部是行不通的,在西部常规赛的战绩实际还是很重要的。要是到了西部,卡哇伊要么被迫打更多的比赛,要么球队的排名低很多。毕竟小卡从来都不是耐操的。
There are no basketball reasons for him to leave Toronto
从篮球层面考虑,小卡是没有理由离开多伦多的。
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[–]nef9654 2448 points 17 hours ago
If Kawhi leaves, it won't be for basketball reasons. I think everybody can agree that the Spurs and the Raptors are great basketball organizations. Toronto is a big market so it wouldn't be about that either. He might just want to be in LA to be close to his friends and family.
如果卡哇伊离开了,不会是出于篮球层面的考虑。马刺和猛龙都是伟大的球会,我觉得这一点大家是都同意的。多伦多市场很大,所以也不会是因为这个原因。或许他会想去洛杉矶,仅仅是因为他想离朋友和家人更近些。
[–]Raptors beerdude111 145 points 15 hours ago
I think everybody can agree that the Spurs and the Raptors are great basketball organizations
15 year old me could've only dreamt about the Raptors being compared to Spurs.
We made it fellas!!!
猛龙球迷:“马刺和猛龙都是伟大的球会,我觉得这一点大家是都同意的。”
15岁的我只敢在梦里说我龙能比肩马刺。
如今我们做到了,老铁们!
[–]Raptors RunicLordofMelons 59 points 15 hours ago
Once this run with this core is over, I'd hope our team just maintains consistent playoff appearances every year like the Spurs do. Even if we aren't contenders every single year, Id rather watch the Raptors do their best and lose in the playoffs, rather than tank.
猛龙球迷:一旦我们在这帮核心团队带领下的这波冲冠势头结束了,我希望我们的球队能够像马刺一样,每年都能在季后赛亮相。哪怕我们不能每年争冠,我也想看到球队在季后赛站着死,总好过摆烂。
[–]Raptors vanillagorillamints 36 points 15 hours ago
Once this run is over we’re about to see Canada’s dream team in 2025 take over the world. This is inspiring an entire generation of kids...
猛龙球迷:等到我龙这股争冠势头结束的时候,我们就能看到加拿大梦之队在2025年称霸全球了。这支猛龙的成就正在激励着一代年轻人……
[–]Raptors kefunx 3 points 14 hours ago
If Andrew Wiggins can get his shit together, that'd be great. We'd have Wiggins, Murray, gilgeous-Alexander. Add in Barrett, Alexander-walker, nembhard, Clarke, etc. This is just the beginning!
猛龙球迷:要是维金斯能拿出点态度来,那就好咯。那样的话,我们会有维金斯、穆雷、亚历山大。再加上巴雷特、亚历山大-沃克、nembhard和Brandon Clarke等等。这才只是开始!
[–]Spurs Koioua 53 points 16 hours ago
Both SA and Toronto are great organizations, and SA pioneered Load Management . My guess is that he wants to be closer to San Diego, since that is where he is from. Maybe he'll resign with Toronto for another 1 or 2 years, but who knows.
马刺球迷:马刺和猛龙都是很棒的球队,而在球员的负荷管理方面,我刺是先驱。我猜想吧,卡哇伊想离圣迭戈更近些,毕竟他是来自那儿的。或许他会和猛龙续约一两年,不过谁说的清呢
[–]Raptors art_cart_dart_eart 1392 points 16 hours ago
Raise his kids the way he was raised: similar climate, similar culture - I get it. Please stay.
猛龙球迷:小卡想让他的孩子按照自己当初的方式长大成人吧:同样的气候、同样的文化。这我理解,可是还是要留下啊。
[–]kawhitheman 144 points 17 hours ago
P.s Toronto is a great city too in terms of urban lifestyle plus kawhi can live low key which matches up perfectly with his personality
而且就都市生活的节奏来说,多伦多也很棒啊。卡哇伊可以过得很低调,这和他的个性完美匹配。
[–]paulmaster90909 70 points 16 hours ago
Winter though.
可是加拿大的冬天……
[–]Raptors kohlscustoms 83 points 15 hours ago
Also weather. I live in Toronto and I love it but there are days in the winter when I can’t help but ask myself what the fuck I’m doing there
猛龙球迷:我们的气候确实不好。我住在多伦多,我很爱这里,可是到了冬天,有些时候我就忍不住问自己,我特么在这儿搞毛啊。
[–]Collations 29 points 15 hours ago
Everyday I wake up to snow I think my parents could've moved anywhere but they moved to this cold ass place.
每天醒来看到雪,我就想啊,我爸妈当初应该搬去其他地方的,可是他们却搬来了这个冷的要死的鬼位置。
[–]xxdarkslidexx 26 points 15 hours ago
Kawhi is colder than our winters
卡哇伊比我们的冬天还冷吧
[–]SgtHyperider 27 points 14 hours ago
Toronto has the same winter as New York
多伦多的冬天和纽约一样啊
[–]Cavaliers 7point7 33 points 16 hours ago
He’s playing basketball 7 days a week in the winter, half of it on the road. Don’t think it really matters much.
骑士球迷:而且他冬天一周打7天篮球,有一半的时间是在客场啊。我觉得天气因素没那么重要。
[–]Aegon_Targs_Uncle 453 points 16 hours ago
I'm thinking he re-signs for about 2 years and then heads West.
我觉得吧,他会先和猛龙续约两年左右,然后再去西部
[–]Spurs siphillis 18 points 13 hours ago
That's the best of both worlds. Sign a short deal with Toronto while they are still title favorites, head back home when the window closes.
马刺球迷:这对双方都好。和猛龙签个短约,毕竟他们还很有实力,然后等到猛龙不在争冠之列了,回家。
[–]yulimm612 296 points 15 hours ago
They should just offer him 4 years with the last 3 years being player options lol
猛龙应该提供4年合约,后面三年是球员选项,哈哈哈哈
[–]Butter-Trees 231 points 15 hours ago
Just hand him a piece of blank paper with a line for his signature
就给他一个空白支票,留个地方给他签名就行。
[–]ramps14 297 points 15 hours ago
5 years 800 million
Signed: Kawhi
5年8亿!
签名:卡哇伊。
[–][TOR] Kyle Lowry Stupidnames04 336 points 15 hours ago
Just ask him what he wants haha.
猛龙球迷:干脆问问小卡想要啥吧,哈哈哈
[–]Mavericks lalakingmalibog 122 points 14 hours ago
I heard he wants to get paid
独行侠球迷:听说他想要钱。
[–]the_fishes_are_real 110 points 13 hours ago
Boardman gets paid.
“篮板狂魔有钱拿”
[–]76ers Bandwagon emanresu_tcerrocni 32 points 13 hours ago
Just move the raptors to LA. It’s a big market. Can support 3 teams.
76人球迷:干脆把猛龙搬到洛杉矶吧,那可是个大球市,三支球队也承受得起的。
[–]Raptors CornOnTheHob 37 points 14 hours ago
Maybe they should think outside the box. Have the contract say 2 year deal on the first page and then on the last page say just kidding this is actually a 6 year deal. Hope he doesn't read the whole thing.
猛龙球迷:也许你们该开开脑洞。合同的第一页写着两年合约,然后最后一页说前面是开玩笑的,实际是六年合约。希望小卡不会把合同全部看完。
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[–]Raptors Spencer_Drangus 407 points 16 hours ago
Adam Silver said that Kawhi was only allowed to do load management cause the NBA and Kawhi’s doctors hashed it out and proved it was needed, so if he’s healthier next season we won’t see the same style load management we’ll see the LBJ or Spurs style.
猛龙球迷:萧华说过,之所以允许猛龙对小卡的负荷管理,是因为联盟和卡哇伊的医生核实过,证实这种操作是有必要的,所以如果下赛季小卡的健康状况改善了,就不会再有这赛季这种负荷管理了。我们会看到他像詹姆斯那样,或者是马刺时期那种方式。
[–][IND] Victor Oladipo Keenancastetter 162 points 16 hours ago
I thought his injury was a chronic problem with body. Like it would never go away just need to be properly dealt with.
步行者球迷:我觉得他的伤病是个身体的长期问题。是绝不会完全痊愈的,就是需要妥善对待。
[–]Raptors Spencer_Drangus 129 points 16 hours ago
And if that’s the case the NBA has to approve his load management, if it was unapproved the Raptors would face fines.
猛龙球迷:如果真是那么回事,那NBA就得同意他的负荷管理。要是不同意的话,我龙就得交罚款了。
[–]Bent1342nogk7843ok 48 points 14 hours ago
It's called an "injury." It's seriously so incredibly stupid that the NBA tries to force teams to play certain lineups. If they card about the players or the quality of basketball on the court there wouldn't be any back to back games
这可是“伤病”啊。联盟居然想着去强迫球队明确让哪些人出场,这真是蠢的可以。如果他们在乎球员或者是球赛的质量,那就不该有背靠背比赛。
[–]Knicks jake13122 16 points 15 hours ago
How can the NBA determine how much he plays?
尼克斯球迷:为啥联盟可以决定小卡能打多少比赛呢?
[–]Raptors Spencer_Drangus 44 points 15 hours ago
Because the NBA can fine teams for load management if not approved, cause the NBA is a product and resting stars fucks with the product short term.
猛龙球迷:因为他们可以罚球啊,因为NBA是个商品,要是让球星休息的话会在短期内对这个商品造成不良影响。
[–]Bent1342nogk7843ok 16 points 13 hours ago
Maybe they should shorten the season and get rid of back to back games if they care about the product on the court so much. This is billionaires trying to exert power over their workforce, nothing more
要是他们真有那么在乎场上的商品,或许联盟应该缩短赛季,或者取消背靠背。这些富翁就是想对手下的人施加影响力,就这回事。
[–]Federal_Bread 197 points 16 hours ago
Board man will get paid no matter where he goes. Just let the man decide where he wants to play basketball. So far, we can see what happens when he feels trapped.
不管篮板狂魔去哪儿,他的钱都不会少拿。就让他决定想去哪儿吧。目前来看,我们可以看看当他感觉到不自在时会发生什么。
[–]lilshowtime 41 points 15 hours ago
Thank you! I’m getting tired of all this free agency speculation. Ohhh Kawhi bought property in LA and Toronto, Nike said KD is staying, Kyrie is leaving, blah blah blah.
Let these guys decide their own futures and let’s sit back and let the dominos fall in July.
谢谢啊!我真是受够了这些自由市场去向的猜测。哦,卡哇伊在洛杉矶和多伦多买房了,耐克说阿杜会留队,欧文要走,各种风言风语。
就让这些人自己决定未来啊,我们就坐着看7月的好戏呗。
[–][TOR] OG Anunoby VagabondingCanada 52 points 14 hours ago
This kind of engagement is part of the product. Don't yuck others' yum. Noone is forcing you to be here.
猛龙球迷:这些猜测的参与感就是NBA的一部分啊。己所不欲勿施于人,没人逼着你点开这个帖子。
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[–]DeliciousLiving 566 points 18 hours ago
The conferences would seem even more unbalanced if Kahwi went west - at least in regards to star power. Curry, Durant, LeBron, Harden in the west vs Giannis, Embiid in the east?
要是小卡去了西部,那至少就球星影响力来说,东西部就会更加不均衡了。西部的库里、阿杜、詹姆斯、哈登对东部的字母哥和恩比德?
[–]Raptors bacon__sandwich 808 points 15 hours ago
The east has FVV Sr.
猛龙球迷:东部还有范弗里特啊
[–]Nets NotOfferedForHearsay 24 points 16 hours ago
Giannis Embiid Kyrie AD (probably) Blake Jimmy Kemba. East/West stars have gotten way more balanced over the past two seasons than the Lebron Cleveland/Miami days, when Joe Johnson and Paul Pierce might have been two of the five best players in the East.
篮网球迷:字母哥、恩比德、欧文、戴维斯、格里芬、巴特勒和沃克啊。比起詹姆斯在骑士和热火的那些年,东西部的球星势力在这两个赛季可要均衡多了。要是在以前,乔-约翰逊和皮尔斯或许都能进东部前五。
[–]Knicks mylanguage 15 points 14 hours ago
True but looking ahead:
Doncic, Zion, Morant, KP, Fox, Bagley, Ayton, Booker
Etc. Are all in the West.
尼克斯球迷:是这么回事,可你再往前看:
东契奇、锡安、莫兰特、波尔津吉斯、福克斯、巴格利、艾顿、布克等等、
这些人都在西部啊
[–]Celtics Sway40 15 points 13 hours ago
Trae, Tatum, Brown, Russell, Simmons all in the east. Isnt as unbalanced as it seems.
Putting Zion and Ja in the West already isnt fair considering how easily both of those picks could be traded
凯尔特人球迷:吹羊、塔图姆、布朗、拉塞尔、西蒙斯也都在东部啊。没有那么不均衡的。
早早把锡安和莫兰特放在西部有点扯了,毕竟他俩是很容易被交易的。
[–]Bulls TakeTheQuickTwo 238 points 17 hours ago
Durant isn’t going to be in the West next year
公牛球迷:阿杜下赛季不会在西部了。
[–]MysticKnives 536 points 17 hours ago
This is as bad as saying Kawhi is for sure leaving/staying. Nobody here knows what he’s doing
你这话就和说卡哇伊肯定要走或留一样没谱。没人知道他会作何选择。
[–]ATLKing123 132 points 17 hours ago
Heck after these finals he’s probably staying with Warriors
管他的,这次总决赛过后,阿杜或许会留在勇士
[–]SpringLoaded23 57 points 16 hours ago
The hardest road
“最艰难的道路”
[–]Supersonics Llamayoda 51 points 15 hours ago*
Honestly why not, if he cares about winning only, he warriors are a pretty good pick for him and everyone knows they need him now. Only problem is whether he wants to improve his legacy, and the draft that the warriors are gonna have bench problems if they give klay the contract he wants too.
超音速球迷:说实话,为啥不留下呢?要是阿杜只在乎胜利的话,那勇士应该是个很不错的选择啊,人人都知道现在的勇士需要阿杜。唯一的问题在于阿杜是否想提升个人的成就,而且如果勇士给了克莱想要的合约的话,那他们的板凳就会很成问题了。
[–][TOR] Bruno Caboclo MCTerrific 59 points 15 hours ago
I'd say this series is showing that they already have bench problems. They've struggled to get anyone outside Curry and Thompson to get into double digits. Meanwhile, everyone on the Raptors is a threat to go off for 20+
猛龙球迷:我觉得这轮系列赛已经暴露了勇士的板凳问题啊。除了库里和克莱之外,他们其他人很难有人能得分上双。而我龙人人都能冲20+。
[–]Spurs kawhi_tho 14 points 15 hours ago
Nobody here knows but everyone in the league seems to think that Durant is gone. People like Russillo and Simmons who have connections with agents and in front offices have said over and over again that they haven't heard anyone tell them that they think Durant is staying.
马刺球迷:吧里没人知道阿杜的去向,不过联盟的内部人士貌似都觉得他要走。像Ryen Russillo和Bill Simmons这种和球员经纪人、球队管理层有关系的名记已经多次说过,他们还从未听谁说阿杜会留队。
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[–]sharklavapit 17 points 14 hours ago
No he doesnt HAVE to
Would it be BETTER for him? Yes, I think so too
Would LBJ be better off had he remained in the East? No doubt
And where did he go? LA
Not every decision is made by reason and probable outcomes
不,小卡没那个必要。
留在东部对他来说更好吗?是,我也这么看
那要是詹姆斯之前留在东部会不会更好?肯定的啊
可他为啥要走呢?洛杉矶啊
不是每个决定都是基于某些原因和隐藏的结果而做出的。
[–]Lakers Hia7us 26 points 15 hours ago
The west being stronger narrative has come to an end.
Find a new slant.
湖人球迷:西部更强的说法也可以消停了。
说点新鲜的吧
[–]Celtics RhodeIslandisFake 34 points 16 hours ago
I don’t think the gap is a big as it’s been in the past. Milwaukee and Philly are arguably the third and fourth best teams in the league at this moment. With KD most likely coming to the east, it’s gonna be a gauntlet
凯尔特人球迷:我也觉得东西部的差距没那么大了。现在的雄鹿和76人都算得上是联盟第三、第四的球队了。而且KD很可能要来东部,到时候会是一通乱战的。
[–]Raptors 0-2drop 30 points 15 hours ago
Honestly, after this year I don't know that the Leastern Conference stuff is still accurate.
Certainly the west is deeper than the east, but the top of the east seems stronger than the top of the west right now, particularly if KD leaves the Bay. The 6-8 seed teams are stronger out west, but Milwaukee, Philly, Boston and Indy (if Oladipo returns healthy) all compare favorably to the 2-5 teams in the west.
Even with the Dubs, if they do lose KD this offseason, how confident are you that they could have run the Philly/Milwaukee gauntlet that Toronto did this year?
猛龙球迷:讲真,这个赛季过后,我不知道那种东部不行的说法是否还站得住脚。
的确,西部的强手比东部更多,可是东部的强队貌似实力比西部强队更高啊,何况KD很可能会离开湾区。西部的6到8名更强,可是雄鹿、76人、凯尔特人和步行者比起西部的2-5名都更有优势吧。哪怕是勇士,如果杜兰特这个休赛期走人了,那你还敢说他们能像今年的猛龙一样从76人和雄鹿的绞杀中突围吗?
[–]Pacers MindofShadow[S] 34 points 16 hours ago
It isn't about hte top, it is about the bottom half.
You can coast cleveland lebron style and still end up in the playoffs easy.
步行者球迷:西部竞争难的不是前面的球队,而是中游的那部分。
要是在东部,你可以像詹姆斯的骑士那样划水,最后还是能轻松打进季后赛。
[–]Rockets MutantAussie 56 points 16 hours ago
He is the biggest star in Canadian sports right now. I'm about 2 hours from Toronto, and there's restaurants with 'Kawhi eats free' signs outside.
I think he should do a 1+1 and then assess his options after that. Toronto is in a beautiful position to sign a big free agent after Lowry, Ibaka and Gasol expire.
Also don't put it past OG Anunoby becoming a very good player when he returns.
火箭球迷:小卡现在是加拿大体育界最耀眼的明星。我住的地方离多伦多只有两个小时车程,那里有餐馆外面写着“卡哇伊免费吃”
我觉得小卡应该会签1+1的合同,之后再评估自己的选择。等到洛瑞、伊巴卡和小加的合同到期之后,多伦多是能签来一个大牌自由球星的。
别忘了他们还有阿奴诺比,等他复出后他是可以变得很优秀的。
[–]RCdelta62 4 points 13 hours ago
As a Bucks fan, get him the heck out of the East. He's the only guy to slow down Giannis. And he flat out stopped Giannis cold.
As a basketball fan, I want him to stay in the East.
作为一个雄鹿球迷,我希望他赶紧离开东部。只有他能延缓字母哥,直接能遏制住字母哥。
作为一个篮球迷,我希望他留在东部。
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