【键盘侠】湖人报价戴维斯|不该把英格拉姆摆上货架？
2019-06-13 19:05:33 来源：CCTV5在线直播
[Stein] The Lakers have made Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball and the No. 4 pick in the June 20 draft available in trade talks with the Pelicans, league sources say. New Orleans has made it known it hope to assemble a three-teams-or-more deal before surrendering Anthony Davis.
据名记Marc Stein今日报道，有消息源称，湖人已就安东尼-戴维斯的交易向鹈鹕给出了英格拉姆、鲍尔和本届选秀4号签的报价。鹈鹕方面正在和各支球队联系，他们希望能达成一笔涉及三方或者更多球队的交易，以求在浓眉的交易中得到最大收获。
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[–][CLE] LeBron James SunnytheFlameKing 259 points 12 hours ago
can it pls happen today or tomorrow?
骑士球迷：这事儿能今天或者明天定下来么？
[–]Lakers thereturnofjagger 123 points 12 hours ago
can it happen now?
湖人球迷：能现在定下来么？
[–][CLE] Ira Newble welchie98 789 points 12 hours ago
[Woj] Lakers has decided to throw in the Kareem and Shaq statues outside Staples Center
骑士球迷：沃神爆料：湖人已经决定把斯台普斯中心外的贾巴尔和奥尼尔雕像加入交易。
[–][NOP] Anthony Davis BeastaBubbles 179 points 12 hours ago
[Woj] Lakers have agreed (in principle) to swapping team history with New Orleans.
鹈鹕球迷：沃神爆料：湖人已经基本同意和新奥尔良交换球队历史。
[–]Pelicans blueboybob 111 points 12 hours ago
Third team is Jazz and we get our name back...
I'm ok with that.
鹈鹕球迷：第三支参与交易的球队爵士，我们可以叫回新奥尔良爵士……
我同意
[–]Jazzs atan_in_high_heels 68 points 11 hours ago
Fourth team is the Timberwolves who get the 5 minnesota lakers titles
爵士球迷：第四支球队是森林狼，他们可以从湖人那儿拿回明尼阿波利斯时期的五个冠军。
[–]Celtics crazysalad 35 points 11 hours ago
6th team is OKC who have decided to move back to Seattle
凯尔特人球迷：第六支球队是雷霆，他们决定搬回到西雅图。
[–]TheKingAndKy 314 points 12 hours ago
[Charania]David Griffin has demanded a nude lap dance from Jeanie Buss.
Shams爆料，大卫-格林芬已经要求珍妮-巴斯裸体为自己表演膝上舞。
[–]Pelicans boomer_rang22 200 points 12 hours ago
I’ll allow it.
鹈鹕球迷：我同意
[–]Suns mrsuns10 33 points 12 hours ago
Can I have one?
太阳球迷：能给我表演一次么？
[–]Lakers xArgonaut 12 points 10 hours ago
you get a Lavar lap dance
湖人球迷：那就是球爹给你表演了。
[–]Lakers hahagamer7 19 points 11 hours ago
LaVar: You know what?! Fuck yall! Ima start my own team with me as head coach and my sons playing in my team! We'll be better than the Warriors! Unstoppable! And we will walk out after every unfair call!!
湖人球迷：球爹：你知道吗？滚你们的！！我要自己组一支球队，我是主教练，我的儿子们都在我队里！我们会比勇士还强的！挡都挡不住！只要裁判眼瞎我们就走人！
[–]PotatoCurryz 37 points 11 hours ago
It's crazy what a Suns fan would do for Lonzo
太阳球迷为了得到鲍尔也是拼啊
[–][PHI] Jrue Holiday AnthonyEmbiid 15 points 10 hours ago
He would honestly be perfect for them.
76人球迷：讲真，鲍尔是太阳的完美人选。
[–]Digitalzombie90 22 points 11 hours ago
David Griffin stated he is looking for a multi team trade package where Lakers need to convince KD to sign with NY, Kyrie to sign with Nets, Lonzo to head to Phoenix, Klay to sign with Clippers, Steph Curry to retire, Giannis to go back to Greece and Lakers to give up Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, 4th pick and Jeannies last game worn undergarments in order to make the AD deal happen. Or he will trade him straight up for Jaylen Brown to Boston.
大卫-格里芬表态说他在寻求多队打包交易，那湖人得说服阿杜加盟尼克斯、欧文加盟篮网、鲍尔去太阳、克莱加盟快船、库里退役、字母哥回希腊，然后湖人还得放弃英格拉姆、库兹马、哈特和四号签，并且还要送出珍妮-巴斯最近一次现场观战时的原味内衣，这样才能促成戴维斯的加盟。否则的话，格里芬就会直接把AD送到波士顿，换来杰伦-布朗。
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[–]Raptors simonpheenicks 14 points 11 hours ago
Man, its crazy how well the Pelicans are going to be set up after this.
猛龙球迷：我天呐，这次交易过后，鹈鹕是得有多强啊
[–][CHO] Kemba Walker BizGilwalker 780 points 12 hours ago
They should assemble a 30 team trade for shits and giggles
黄蜂球迷：反正都是玩儿嘛，他们应该来一次30队参与的交易。
[–]Lakers stashtv 17 points 11 hours ago
30 teams? Screw that! Let's get the MLB/NHL/MLS involved!
湖人球迷：30队？这不扯淡嘛！应该把MLB、NHL和MLS的球队也算上！
[–][CHA] Kemba Walker Kraze_F35 332 points 11 hours ago
with us sending Batum and getting AD, right?
黄蜂球迷：然后我们甩掉巴图姆，得到戴维斯，对不？
[–]Timberwolves MeatCheeks 294 points 11 hours ago
yes but you'll also be receiving Andrew Wiggins, John Wall, and Solomon Hill.
森林狼球迷：可以，可是你们还得接收维金斯、沃尔和所罗门-希尔。
[–][CHA] Kemba Walker Kraze_F35 46 points 11 hours ago
can't be any worse than our supporting cast right now
黄蜂球迷：总比我们现在的角色阵容强啊
[–]Lakers anotharichard 142 points 11 hours ago
Also AD can opt out as soon as the deal is finalized
湖人球迷：等到交易一敲定，戴维斯就走人
[–][CHO] Kemba Walker BizGilwalker 187 points 11 hours ago
Fine with me
黄蜂球迷：我没意见。
[–]Pelicans alec420 53 points 11 hours ago
You must be one of the lucky ones that hasn’t seen Solomon Hill play basketball.
鹈鹕球迷：你可真是个幸运儿啊，还没看过所罗门-希尔打球吧。
[–][CHA] Kemba Walker Kraze_F35 65 points 10 hours ago
I've watched Michael Carter-Williams shoot 33% on FG's and 23% on 3 Pointers and I see Batum contribute almost nothing to the team for 25 Million dollars a year. Can't be that much worse tbh
黄蜂球迷：我连迈卡威33%的命中率、23%的三分命中率都见识过了，还看过年薪2500万的巴图姆一点作用都不起。讲真，还有啥场面没见过啊
[–][ATL] John Collins rgbhs 32 points 10 hours ago
A wiggs, wall, AD team would be so much better than the current Hornets. And losing Batum as a bonus?
老鹰球迷：维金斯、沃尔和戴维斯这套阵容可比现在的黄蜂强多了，再有了，甩掉巴图姆应该是好事吧？
[–][CHA] Kemba Walker Kraze_F35 46 points 10 hours ago
these people clearly do not know anything about the Hornets if they think any of this is a negative to us lol
黄蜂球迷：哈哈哈哈，但凡你们有人觉得这些人随便哪个来我们队是坏事的话，那就显然是对我们黄蜂一无所知。
[–]Lakers Yoshi122 23 points 12 hours ago
lol fuck that watch lakers trade lonzo and BI and then they break out, AD gets injured again and pelicans make the playoffs instead of the lakers
湖人球迷：靠，就等着看我湖把鲍尔和莺歌送走之后崩盘吧，然后戴维斯再次受伤，我们进不了季后赛，最后反倒是鹈鹕打进了季后赛。
[–]NBA ShortJort 14 points 12 hours ago
Trading Ingram will be a mistake.
把莺歌送走是个错误的选择。
[–]Lakers LABiH 8 points 13 hours ago
I REALLY wanted to keep Ingram. The kid is gonna be an All-Star averaging 23+ ppg and defending your best player night in night out.
湖人球迷：我真的希望留下英格拉姆啊。这孩子会成为一个场均得分23+的全明星的，而且每晚都能防守对方最强点。
[–]Coffee_Transfusion 4 points 11 hours ago
He'll be busting the Lakers' ass for years to come
他以后见湖人一次锤一次。
[–][GSW] Wilt Chamberlain sprewellchokes 74 points 13 hours ago
damn I would have kept lonzo and thrown kuz in. lonzo would fit great with AD and bron smh
勇士球迷：靠，是我就宁愿留下鲍尔，送出库兹马。哎，鲍尔和詹姆斯、戴维斯很搭的啊
[–]Lakers _Fadeaway_ 32 points 10 hours ago
You need someone else to shoulder the scoring load. Bron will always dominate the ball and ball is at his best with the ball in his hands. Having kuz out there as an aggressive scorer fits better with Bron and AD I would think.
湖人球迷：必须得有其他人分担得分任务啊。詹姆斯肯定会一直拿球，而有球在手的鲍尔才能打出最好状态。有库兹马在场作为得分手的话，我觉得更适合詹姆斯和戴维斯。
[–]Clippers THEDumbasscus 13 points 9 hours ago
With Bron and AD you'd be better off putting out a volume outside shooter you could pick up off the FA market like Wayne Ellington or retaining Reggie Bullock
快船球迷：有詹姆斯和戴维斯的话，你最好配几个外线投手，你湖可以去自由市场淘艾灵顿这样的球员，或者是留下布洛克。
[–][LAL] Lonzo Ball cwillard260 22 points 13 hours ago
Damn. Really wanted to keep one of the two. Fearful for our defense without Lonzo
Looks like we’re hanging onto Kuz though, so that’s good. Hopefully he can be our Lou Williams if he gets consistent
湖人球迷：擦，真想把鲍尔和莺歌留下其中一个。没了鲍尔，我们的防线很让人担心啊。
不过貌似我们很看重库兹马，这也是好事。希望他能打出稳定表现，成为我们的路威。
[–][CHI] Tony Snell jor301 12 points 12 hours ago
What AD brings defensively more than makes up for the loss of those 2 defensively
公牛球迷：就防守端来说，戴维斯的作用可比鲍尔和莺歌加起来都大。
[–]Lakers whatjever 12 points 10 hours ago*
Ehhh.. Lonzo and Ingram’s length bothered so many elite scorers last season. Davis is better than them defensively, but I think the combo of both their defense is slightly better than the defense Davis offers.
湖人球迷：呃……上赛季，鲍尔和莺歌的臂展让很多顶级得分手都不舒服。戴维斯的防守的确比他们强，不过我觉得他俩加起来的话，防守还是要比戴维斯的作用大一丢丢吧。
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[–]Pelicans BradL_13 134 points 12 hours ago
I'll allow it
鹈鹕球迷：我同意。
[–]NBA jbOOgi3 180 points 12 hours ago
You're honestly so lucky, it's not every day you get a big baller on your team
你们可真是幸运，得到这种实力球员的机会可不是常有的。
[–]Pelicans BradL_13 23 points 12 hours ago
I'm more concerned about De'andre Hunter
鹈鹕球迷：我更关心德安德雷-亨特。
[–]Lakers LakersLAQ 38 points 12 hours ago
Ingram is the same age as Hunter with 3 years of NBA experience fwiw. He's gonna be good. Take care of him if it happens
湖人球迷：莺歌的年龄和亨特一样啊，而且还有三年的NBA经验。他会很厉害的，要是交易成了，可得照顾好他。
[–]Supersonics seahawksfan123 14 points 13 hours ago
Lonzo and Jrue would easily be the best defensive backcourt in the league
超音速球迷：要是鲍尔和霍乐迪搭的话，那很明显，这就是联盟防守最好的后场组合了。
[–]Hawks AsheliaDalmasca4096 50 points 12 hours ago
Lonzo/Jrue/Ingram/Zion is going to be filthy on defense.
Need to find some shooters though....
老鹰球迷：鲍尔、霍乐迪、莺歌、锡安这套阵容的防守太变态了。
不过还得配一些射手……
[–]Trail Blazers Soap_MacLavish 164 points 12 hours ago
Lonzo on any team other than the Lakers will feel weird
开拓者球迷：鲍尔不在湖人而是其他队，这感觉怪怪的啊
[–]Lakers AmnestyTHAT 7 points 9 hours ago
I'm gonna be watching all Pelicans games.
湖人球迷：我会看鹈鹕的所有比赛。
[–]mrlambsauce 67 points 10 hours ago
Zo was the only reason why I watched the lakers. He’s a really underrated team player and is big impact on the floor. I don’t know if people noticed but the lakers were doing much better when Zo was healthy.
我看湖人比赛就是因为鲍尔。他真的是一个被低估的团队型球队，他在场上是很有影响力的。不知道大家有没有注意到，可是当鲍尔健康时，湖人的表现好多了。
[–]Celtics PaoDeLol 23 points 10 hours ago
nice try, lavar
凯尔特人球迷：说得好，球爹！
[–]Bulls SirBuckets 27 points 9 hours ago
I want him on the Bulls! People really don’t understand his impact on the floor despite his shooting splits looking awful. He’s a solid player and if he works out his shooting he’s an all star.
公牛球迷：我希望他来我公牛。有些人是真不明白他在场上的作用，尽管他的投射数据不好看。他是个很稳的球员，如果把篮子练出来了，会成为全明星的。
[–]Supersonic srznballa 9 points 7 hours ago
Im convinced those that say Lonzo isn't a good basketball player don't know shit about basketball.
超音速球迷：我觉得吧，那些说鲍尔不厉害的人压根就不懂篮球。
[–]Raptors Troll_In_The_Dungeon 50 points 12 hours ago
I'd love to see him and Zion run the floor.
猛龙球迷：我想看他和锡安下快攻。
[–][WAS] Caron Butler yunggoldensmile 30 points 11 hours ago
Lobs on lobs on lobs
奇才球迷：空接一个接一个。
[–][TOR] Kawhi Leonard slamdunk23 57 points 12 hours ago
I’m guessing they need to find another team for lonzo. Lakers moving up in the lottery probably saved them from having to give up Kuzma as well
猛龙球迷：我猜湖人还得为鲍尔找其他下家。湖人在选秀中的高位乐透签使得他们不必放弃库兹马了。
[–]Jazz Winniedapoonbear 8 points 11 hours ago
If Lonzo could step up his shooting I could actually see him fitting well next to Donovan on the Jazz.
爵士球迷：如果鲍尔能提升投射水平的话，我真觉得他很适合去爵士搭米切尔。
[–][PHI] Jimmy Butler lil_intro_vert_ 197 points 12 hours ago
shitttt. Ingram is gonna be good. weird fit with Zion tho
76人球迷：我擦，英格拉姆会打出来的，不过和锡安搭还是有点奇怪。
[–]ayeno 106 points 12 hours ago
Ingram is also looking to get paid next offseason, are the Pelicans ready to pay him like $15-20 million?
莺歌还指望在下个休赛期捞个大合同呢，鹈鹕准备好给他1500到2000万了吗？
[–]Nets sahsan10 184 points 12 hours ago
$15? Bruh hes getting 20+ if not the max.
篮网球迷：才1500万？老哥啊，即便不是顶薪，他也能拿到2000万起步吧
[–][MIA] Dwyane Wade thesketchyvibe 11 points 12 hours ago
From who?
热火球迷：谁会给？
[–]Nets sahsan10 18 points 12 hours ago
Whoever offered porter a max
篮网球迷：当初给波特顶薪的球队就会给
[–]Nets Wm_2 42 points 12 hours ago
hey thats us
篮网球迷：那不就是我网么……
[–]Lakers SchroodingersDawg 156 points 12 hours ago
If Ingram is at the point where he’s getting consideration for max deals then that’s a good thing for the Pelicans.
湖人球迷：如果现阶段的莺歌考虑冲顶薪的话，那对鹈鹕来说是好事啊
[–]Supersonics Noblman_Swerve 9 points 10 hours ago
Ingram doesn't shoot nearly enough 3's to fit with LeBron and Davis, but he will grow as a player much more if he can go to the Pelicans.
超音速球迷：要说和詹姆斯、戴维斯搭的话，莺歌的三分出手是远远不够的。不过要是他能去鹈鹕，他会进步非常大。
[–]Clippers d1g1tal 113 points 12 hours ago
I don’t see Ingram getting the max, anywhere. Book it.
快船球迷：我觉得莺歌是远远拿不到顶薪的。话撂这儿了
[–][LAL] Magic Johnson CxtchthisFxde 70 points 12 hours ago
It might be one of those things where the Hawks or some team fuck the Pels by offering him the max and making them match.
Aka “Brooklyn Nets’ing” them
湖人球迷：或许是这么个套路呢，到时候老鹰或者是其他某对为了恶心鹈鹕，给莺歌提供顶薪，然后迫使鹈鹕匹配报价。
也就是篮网式套路。
[–]chad12341296 21 points 12 hours ago
idk he was very misused in LA, Gentry is 10x the offensive coach that Luke is so there's a good chance that he looks like a totally different player in New Orleans
说不清吧，洛杉矶以后会很想莺歌的，金特里对进攻的调教可比沃顿强太多，莺歌要是去了新奥尔良的话，他很可能成长为一个完全不同的球员。
[–]Lakers whenindoubtmumble 21 points 12 hours ago*
28ppg after the all star break - people have gotten max deals for a lot less
Edit: yes, super small sample size. But remember this is a league where Porter, Wiggins, Parsons, Barnes, Wesley Matthews all got max deals.
湖人球迷：他全明星过后场均28分啊，很多比这数据差很多的人都拿了顶薪啊。
编辑：没错，他这个28分的样本量很小。可是别忘了，如今的联盟，连波特、维金斯、帕森斯、巴恩斯、马修斯这些人都拿了顶薪。
[–]Raptors pleasefeedthedino 20 points 12 hours ago
That was 6 games, 4 of which were vs non playoff teams.
猛龙球迷：你这样本量就6场比赛，其中还有4场打得不是季后赛球队。
[–]Bucks kyleb402 48 points 12 hours ago
Ingram>Tatum
I'm not sure if that's become the conventional wisdom yet, but our series against them sealed the deal for me.
雄鹿球迷：莺歌比塔图姆强。
我不知道现在这是不是主流观点，可是我们和凯尔特人的系列赛打完之后，我更加坚信这一点。
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[–][BOS] Mickael Pietrus TheLastSecondShot 52 points 13 hours ago
Only those assets? Worse than the mid season proposal if so
凯尔特人球迷：湖人只有这些筹码吗？要真这么回事，那就比赛季中期的报价还低啊
[–]Cavaliers Exception1228 23 points 13 hours ago
We all said the Pels were retarded to not accept the deal at the deadline and that was the best they were going to get. We were right.
骑士球迷：当时我们就说了，鹈鹕不在截止日前接受湖人的那个报价就是智障，那是他们能拿到的最好的报价。看来我们当时是对的。
[–]Lakers thepresentisagift 6 points 12 hours ago
Not really though.. Kuzma and Hart are replaced with the nr 4 pick and Pels might get something better with the 4 pick if they are looking to trade it
湖人球迷：还真不是这么回事……库兹马和哈特换成了4号签啊，要是鹈鹕寻求交易的话，或许能用4号签换到更好的。
[–]Pelicans Chiefmiest 49 points 13 hours ago
We have zion now
鹈鹕球迷：而且我们现在有锡安了。
[–]NBAurfaselol[ ] 8 points 13 hours ago
does that beat Tatum, Brown and all of the Celtics pick?
湖人现在这个报价是不是强于凯尔特人提供的塔图姆、布朗和所有选秀签呢？
[–]Ka_1919 7 points 12 hours ago
No but with AD saying he won't re-sign Celtics would be stupid to try and make a deal.
并不是，可是毕竟戴维斯都说了不会在凯尔特人续约，要是绿军还报价的话，那就是蠢。
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