【键盘侠】077三项数据联盟前十|运动能力弱化版詹姆斯？
2019-11-11 17:30:20 来源：CCTV5在线直播
How crazy is this, through 9 games, Luka Doncic is the ONLY player who is TOP 10 in three major stats. Luka is 2ND in assists, 7TH in points, 10TH in rebounds with the averages of 27.7 PTS / 10.8 REB / 9.1 AST on 61%TS
新赛季9场比赛下来，东契奇是联盟唯一一个三项主要数据指标均在联盟前10的球员，这真是太牛了。本赛季至今为止，东契奇场均27.7分10.8板9.1助，真实命中率61%，助攻排名第二，得分排在第七，篮板第十。
The closest one is Giannis who is 11th in assists. Luka is doing this as a 20 year old sophomore. I know his name is getting old right about now but he really is an anomaly
最接近他的是字母哥，后者的助攻数排在联盟第11。东契奇以一个20岁的二年级生身份完成了这一成就。我知道，现在大家说他说的有点多了，但是这小子真的不简单。
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[–]jitit 2540 指標 14小時前
Sure those stats are impressive, but can he do it vs NBA players?
没错，这些数据是很厉害，可是“他能在面对NBA球员的时候还有这种表现”吗？
[–]Hornets TakesTheWrongSideGuy 85 指標 11小時前
God the way people talked about Doncic during the draft was so annoying.
黄蜂球迷：我天，当初有些人在选秀期间对东契奇的否定真的是太招人烦了。
[–]Bucks CHIEF_KEEF9000 34 指標 10小時前
There were a few doubters but most people thought he'd be at least decent.
雄鹿球迷：当时是有小部分怀疑者，不过大多数人还是认为他至少能打得中规中矩
[–]Zemanyak 724 指標 14小時前
Imagine a 20 years old sophomore doing a "Westbrook year" lol.
一个20岁的二年级生，居然正在打出威少级别的赛季表现，哈哈哈哈
[–]Jazz jyozefu 9 指標 11小時前
and without stat-padding i might add
爵士球迷：那我得再加一点，东契奇不刷数据的
[–]Grizzlies traumakit 19 指標 12小時前
His scoring and assist averages are the highest ever by a 20 year old player.
灰熊球迷：有史以来，所有20岁年纪的球员中，他的场均得分和助攻是最高的。
[–]Pelicans The9thDentist 491 指標 14小時前
I'm all for it if he wins an MVP over Harden averaging 38. That'd be hilarious.
鹈鹕球迷：要是哈登场均38分，东契奇还能力压哈登拿MVP，那我全力支持。那样就好玩咯。
[–]NBA USTS2011 160 指標 13小時前
Mavs need to be at least a top 3 seed for Luka to get serious mvp consideration and that's going to be tough in the West.
要想大家正儿八经把东契奇当MVP候选人看待，那独行侠至少得进西部前三才行，这在西部还是蛮难的。
[–]Kittens4Brunch 143 指標 13小時前
There ain't no such rule. They could be 6th seed, but if Luka has a monster game late in the season against other MVP contenders on national TV, that could win it for him.
哪有这个规矩。或许独行侠最后只是第六，可要是赛季末段，东契奇在全美直播的场次里面对其他的MVP竞争者大放异彩，那他还是有可能拿MVP的。
[–][CLE] LeBron James KingVibrant 49 指標 10小時前
Why is this being upvoted? It is an absolute unspoken rule in the NBA. The only >3rd seed MVP in the past 40 years was Russell Westbrook in 2017 simply because of A. A historic season and B. The Triple-Doubles. I’d argue Harden deserved it that year. Doncic will not get MVP without winning.
骑士球迷：为啥楼上这条还有人点亮？MVP评选看重球队成绩本就是NBA不成文的规矩。过往40年里，唯一一个球队在前三开外还能拿MVP的球员只有17年的威少，原因很简单，一是他的历史性赛季表现，二是场均三双。不过我觉得那年哈登也能拿那年的MVP。至于东契奇，要是球队战绩不行，他是拿不到MVP的。
[–]immaturekobefan 68 指標 12小時前
Doesn't have to be top 3. I believe he's got a fair chance if the Mavs crack 50 wins. Two of the top 3 are gonna be the Lakers-Clippers anyway and both of those teams have two mvp caliber players each. That makes it harder for them to win it and opens it up for players in teams further down the ladder who are undisputed alpha dogs.
还真不必要前三。如果独行侠拿到了50胜，我觉得东契奇是有不小机会拿MVP的。反正西部前三有两个是洛城双雄的，而且这两个队各自都有两个MVP级别的超巨，这就使得这两队的超巨拿MVP的难度加大了，也为排名靠后的球队的球星拿奖增加了可能性。
[–][IND] George Hill NABAKLAB 21 指標 9小時前
also, these top 4 guys from LAC/LAL are going to miss quite a lot games for them to be qualified. except lebron, but no one is voting for him anymore since 2012
步行者球迷：而且洛城双雄的四个超巨除了詹姆斯，其他三人会缺席很多场比赛，这就没多少竞争MVP的资格了。不过自从2012年之后，已经没人给詹姆斯MVP投票了。
[–]Accento fTommyWiseau 9 指標 7小時前
I think that voters would like him winning the award with 3 different teams
那我倒觉得，那些投票者会很乐意看到詹姆斯在三支不同球队拿MVP。
[–]Mavericks DirkNowitzkisWife 163 指標 11小時前
IM NOT SAYING LUKA WILL BE AS GOOD AS LEBRON
however, in Lebron’s 2nd season he came into his own, made 2nd team all NBA and was 6th in MVP voting and people went “oh shit.”
I think we can see something similar from Luka. With Steph Curry out I think 2nd team all NBA is feasible and a top 7 in MVP voting could happen
独行侠球迷：先声明一点，我没说东契奇以后会有詹姆斯这么强！
可是呢，詹姆斯进入联盟的第二年就进了赛季最佳阵二阵，MVP得票位列第六，大家当时很是震惊。
我觉得东契奇这赛季可能会复制老詹当年的这一成就。库里不打了，我觉得东契奇可能会进最佳阵二阵，MVP得票可能会进前7.
[–]Heat KniGht1st 4 指標 9小時前
He is basically young Lebron with less athleticism and better on the outside shooting. Won't be surprised to see him to have a stretch of seasons with very similar statlines but can tell he is clearly getting better.
热火球迷：他基本就是运动能力弱化、外线投射强化的年轻版的詹姆斯。要是他连着几个赛季拿到老詹那种数据我也不奇怪，不过能看出，他明显在变强。
[–]Thunder CurryPullUp3 5 指標 7小時前
Doncic is also unstoppable on the inside, it's the best part of his game. You can't stop him from getting in the paint. Obviously not LeBron level though
雷霆球迷：东契奇在内线也是拦不住的，这是他最强的地方。你不能阻止他杀篮下。不过呢，明显还没到詹姆斯那个级别。
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[–]Crisis_Averted 196 指標 13小時前
White Caruso
白卡鲁索！
[–]Wizards ZoltanFreaknik 52 指標 11小時前
I started balding when I was yoooung
奇才球迷：我很年轻的时候就开始秃了
[–][BRK] D'Angelo Russell SeverusVape0 416 指標 15小時前
All those nephews saying he won't improve his game anymore are looking like fools.
篮网球迷：那些之前说东契奇不会再取得进步的人，现在脸都肿了。
[–]Celtics sevenfivesevensix 66 指標 15小時前
I was one of those nephews. I thought his average athleticism+prior experience in European pro leagues made him better than most other rookies but that other rookies would quickly catch up.
凯尔特人球迷：我的脸就肿得老高。我之前觉得吧，他那种平平无奇的运动能力，再加上过往在欧洲联赛的经验，使得他比大多数菜鸟都厉害，不过呢，其他菜鸟会很快赶上他。
[–][DAL] Seth Curry Wrextor 91 指標 13小時前
Why would u think a teenager wouldn’t improve at all
独行侠球迷：你凭啥认为一个二十来岁的孩子就不会再进步了呢？
[–]Raptors WiltAbdulOlajuwon 8 指標 11小時前
No offense but what a damn stupid ass take to think Luka woudn't improve if you actually watched him last year.
猛龙球迷：无意冒犯，不过要是你真的看了东契奇上赛季的表现，还说他不会进步，那真是傻X！
[–]Grizzlies iluveverycarrot 46 指標 13小時前
Compare him to a rookie Giannis - insane athleticism which he wasn't yet using to his full potential and no professional experience in a high level league. Luka came in as a top player in Europe who was already very mature and skilled. Personally I had the impression that the only real way for him to improve was in his shooting and saw him as a high floor and slightly higher ceiling kind of guy.
灰熊球迷：拿他和菜鸟赛季的字母哥比比就知道了，字母哥身体爆炸，不过当时他还不会完全利用，也没有高级别联赛的经验。东契奇进联盟的时候可是欧洲的头牌，而且技术成熟老练。我当时对他的印象是，他唯一能提升的地方就是投篮，而且他是那种下限高、上限更高一点的球员。
[–][DAL] Seth Curry Wrextor 10 指標 11小時前
That still doesn’t make sense to me, European pros aren’t as good as nba pros, luka will learn more scoring moves and develop even more as a player while he learns things from players who have been in the nba for years, there’s no lebron in Europe to teach him new things
独行侠球迷：你这话我觉得不合理，欧洲的职业球员本就比不上NBA球员，东契奇可以从这些在NBA打了多年的球员身上学习新东西，学习更多的得分动作，磨炼得更全面，毕竟欧洲可没有詹姆斯这种球员可以学习。
[–]76ers ProfitLemon 153 指標 13小時前
I thought Luka would be this good but I’m still a big ol dummy cuz I thought Trae would never be anything special in the league
76人球迷：我以前就觉得东契奇会很了不起，不过我还是个大傻缺，因为我以为特雷-杨没啥本事。
[–]NBA TheAmbitious1 41 指標 12小時前
Did you think Luka would be this good this fast? I admittedly had very low expectations of Luka because of his lack of athleticism and bad 3pt % (he is still shooting badly from 3 both last year and this season). Never in a million years did I think he would nearly average a 28pt triple double, let alone in his 2nd fucking year. Kudos to anyone who predicted that
那你当时有想到东契奇进步的速度会有这么快吗？我承认，之前对东契奇的期望是很低的，因为他缺乏运动天赋，而且三分命中率不高。我压根就不会想到他能取得接近28分的场均三双数据，更别说这特么才第二赛季了。
[–]Legendacb 25 指標 11小時前
He is shooting 41% on catch and shoots... It's just that he is pulling out of reach shots more of the time.
他接球就投的三分命中率高达41%……不过他很多时候的三分都是够着投的。
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[–]Knicks northern_tide 10 指標 12小時前
If he keeps this up he might win MIP and MVP
尼克斯球迷：要是再这么打下去，他或许能拿MVP和MIP。
[–]Knicks TheDrix 26 指標 13小時前
future member of HoF
尼克斯球迷：未来的名人堂成员。
[–]Heat Call_Me_Rambo 12 指標 11小時前
Hawks and Mavs both came away successful from that trade.
热火球迷：老鹰和独行侠当初那笔交易双赢
[–][CLE] LeBron James KingVibrant 28 指標 10小時前
This is the next all-time great. When you average 20 as a rookie and you’re not Tyreke Evans, you’re going to the top assuming you stay healthy. Doncic has never had injury concern (knock on wood) and his play style is so smooth that his current style is very light on his body. Kid is disgusting.
骑士球迷：东契奇就是下一个历史超巨。你要是菜鸟赛季就场均20分，而且还不是泰瑞克-埃文斯的话，那你只要没大伤就能进入顶级行列。东契奇从来就没有伤病的困扰，而且他的打法很柔和，对身体消耗不大。这小孩太变态了。
[–]AVandelay1234 84 指標 12小時前
Barring any injuries this kid is going to be one of the best and I don't care about him being in these statistical categories. Dallas fans should be ecstatic that they have this monster as the face of the franchise. The real deal.
要是没有伤病困扰，这小孩能进入联盟最强的那批。达拉斯球迷应该狂喜，因为他们有这么个可以成为联盟门面怪物。这笔选秀真是赚大发了。
[–]Mavericks PubicAnimeNummerJuan 23 指標 7小時前
Oh we are absolutely ecstatic. Every Mavs game I'm almost pinching myself to make sure it's real lol. We've had so little besides Dirk for so long; we just don't get or keep talent, especially through the draft. It absolutely blows my mind and literally makes me smile every time I remember that he's ours.
独行侠球迷：我们肯定狂喜啊。每次看独行侠比赛，我都得掐自己一把，生怕自己在做梦，哈哈哈。德克之后我们很长时间无所建树了，就是得不到或者留不住那种天才选手，特别是选秀。每次想到东契奇是我们的，就乐开了花。
[–]RaptorsThe-Pharcyde 9 指標 11小時前
Cant even imagine what he is gonna be doing when he is in his mid 20s..like wtf
猛龙球迷：他要是到了二十五六岁能取得咋样的成就哦，真是不敢想啊。
[–]Addicted ToArguing 26 指標 10小時前
We live in an era where 27.7 PPG ranks fucking 7th in the league
这是怎样的时代啊，场均27.7居然只排在特么的联盟第7
[–]Kings save_the_pigs 7 指標 7小時前
It's been like 10 games. The numbers will even out
国王球迷：这不才10场比赛左右嘛，得分数据会下降的。
[–]Heat EyalFidel 114 指標 15小時前
it's not crazy if you saw him play in Europe... he is on the LeBron trajectory
热火球迷：要是你看到他在欧洲的表现就觉得没啥了……他正沿着詹姆斯的生涯轨迹发展
[–]Warriors TerraFree[ ] 73 指標 15小時前
Not without defense he ain’t.
勇士球迷：不，他没有防守。
[–]USA PinocchioStoryKanye 148 指標 14小時前
People rip his defense but he’s not awful. Averages like 1.3 steals, he’s a pretty average defender. Few blocks here and there, few forced turnovers. Never be all-defense but he isn’t Trae young bad
美国队球迷：很多人都狠批他的防守，但他其实也没那么菜。场均大概1.3个抢断，防守还是很凑合的。时不时还能有盖帽，逼迫对手失误。肯定不是那种顶尖防守，但也没特雷-杨那么不堪
[–][DAL] Alex English Warpable 44 指標 11小時前
He's not awful but he still deserves the criticism. When he's putting in the effort, he's a decent defender, but there are definitely times when he fails to put in effort as the game goes on due to being gassed
独行侠球迷：他防守确实没那么菜，但那些批评都是应该的。当他好好防的时候，防守还行。可是他体力不济的时候，就会掉以轻心。
[–]noerapenalty 21 指標 10小時前
Sounds exactly like Lebron
这不就是詹姆斯嘛
[–][DAL] Alex English Warpable 11 指標 8小時前
when lebron puts in the effort, he's elite.
独行侠球迷：老詹认真防的时候，那是顶级的
[–]yoyowatup 17 指標 12小時前
I mean he’s really good but pause that for a second. Lebron at 21 averaged 31-7-7 in a much much slower paced less effecient era. First team all nba. He’s a lot more like harden as far as play style wise imo anyways.
我觉吧，东契奇确实厉害，但是别高兴太早。詹姆斯21岁的时候场均31+7+7啊，而且那个年代的节奏超级慢。他还进了最佳阵一阵。我觉得就打法来说，东契奇像哈登多一些吧。
[–]jimvo99 26 指標 12小時前
He shoulda been an All-Star last year.
东契奇上赛季就该进全明星
[–]ramps14 7 指標 11小時前
Instead of which player that made the team?
那你觉得他可以取代谁？
[–]Mavericks Ugandan_Red_Sonic 13 指標 10小時前
Klay.
Edit: but then again Gobert should have gone first, sooo I don't completly hate the fact that he didn't make all star team. Might have been a good thing, maybe made him hungrier to improve.
独行侠球迷：克莱啊。
编辑：不过话说回来了，就算有可能也是戈贝尔先进，所以东契奇上赛季没进全明星也没啥。或许是好事呢，这样才能激励他进步。
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[–]Pistons ZombieLincoln666 840 指標 14小時前*
Andre Drummond is top 10 in steals, blocks, 2 pointers, and rebounds. He’s actually first in the last 2
edit: also he is 10th in total points
活塞球迷：德拉蒙德本赛季的抢断、盖帽、两分球和篮板都在联盟前十。而且两分球和篮板还是第一呢。
他的赛季总得分还排在第十。
[–]Mavericks xeliviel[S] 22 指標 14小時前*
sick dude. best rebounder since Rodman. he's gonna get that bag
独行侠球迷：太变态了。罗德曼之后最强篮板王。他能拿到大合同
[–][DET] Anthony Tolliver SammyAmico 485 指標 14小時前
Overrated overpaid empty stats
活塞球迷：毕竟是被高估的高薪低能空砍王。
[–]Warriors TheMagicalLlama 76 指標 12小時前
Ah gotchu
I used to hear that Drummond chased rebounds and didn’t play fundamental defense, and his poor finishing padded his o boards over helping the team. Is that just hater talk or did he legitimately Improve on that
勇士球迷：知道你在反讽。
以前我也听说庄神沉迷于抢板，防守是个漏，因为篮下终结差而刷到的进攻板对球队帮助也不大。这话到底是乱喷的呢，还是说他其实有进步？
[–][DET] Anthony Tolliver SammyAmico 69 指標 12小時前
It’s a bit of both, that stuff is fair criticism especially last year. Usually people question his effort levels but this year he’s been leaving it all on the court
活塞球迷：两者都有吧，上赛季的话，这种批评都是很合理的。大家一般会说他打得不努力，不过这赛季倒是很拼。
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