【键盘侠】多队寻求交易庄神|联手吹羊复制当年空接之城？
2020-01-04 17:12:17 来源：CCTV5在线直播
Detroit and Atlanta have been engaged in talks on a trade centered on Andre Drummond, league sources tell ESPN. No deal imminent, but Detroit is talking to Hawks and several other teams on Drummond, sources said.
据NBA名记报道，消息人士透露，活塞正与老鹰等数支球队商谈以安德烈-德拉蒙德为核心筹码的交易。
消息人士透露，虽然目前离该交易达成还有一些距离，但活塞一直在与老鹰等数支球队商谈该交易。
雅虎体育记者Vincent Goodwill跟进报道称，消息人士透露，凯尔特人、独行侠和猛龙也对庄神非常有兴趣，且庄神与波尔津吉斯以及洛瑞的关系都很好。
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[–][DET] Anthony Tolliver SammyAmico 655 指標 11小時前
PLEASE
活塞球迷：赶紧啊！！！
[–]Pistons halleyscomit 41 指標 11小時前
Embrace the T A N K
活塞球迷：迎接摆烂！！！
[–]Celtics PeterDinkleberg[ ] 550 指標 11小時前*
I've seen Pistons fans defend Drummond as if he were their own child and I've seen Pistons fans willing to trade him for a bag of chips
I don't even know what to think of Drummond at this point lol
凯尔特人球迷：我看过活塞球迷像对待自家孩子一样维护庄神，也看过活塞球迷乐意用他去换个大礼包回来。
我现在甚至都不知道该怎么看待庄神了，哈哈哈
[–]Pistons poo_pon_shoo 32 指標 11小時前
we really don't either, but we just want something, ANYTHING to happen at this point to shake us out of this purgatory of mediocrity
活塞球迷：我们其实也不知道，不过我们就是想要些东西，只要现阶段能让我们从这多年平庸的炼狱中摆脱就行。
[–]Pistons _beek_ 59 指標 11小時前
We’re just ready to be done with him. We’ve seen what he can do as the supposed best player on a team and it’s not good enough.
活塞球迷：我们就是准备好了和庄神再见了。我们已经见识过他作为球队头牌的本事，他的表现还不够出色。
[–]Pacers TheSource88 26 指標 10小時前
Too bad you guys don’t play us more. Drummond would win the MVP if he got to play Myles Turners all year.
步行者球迷：可惜你们打我步行者的次数不够多啊。要是庄神一整年的对手都是迈尔斯-特纳，那他可以拿下MVP。
[–]Pistons _beek_ 13 指標 10小時前
He does go off on some guys, it's weird. He's had Towns' number his whole career too
活塞球迷：他面对有些对手时确实打得很轻松，而且他整个职业生涯的数据和唐斯差不多。
[–][DET] Ben Wallace johnazoidberg- 32 指標 11小時前
He's a good player, and when he's focused he really is a star, but he's not a franchise changer. He's not a savior. He's the 3rd option on a contender. He's not a max guy.
活塞球迷：庄神是个好球员，当他专注时，确实是个球星，但他改变不了球队，他不是救世主。他是争冠球队的第三人，不是顶薪球员。
[–]Pistons KarimFF7 411 指標 11小時前
Most of us that love andre want him gone. We need a proper rebuild
活塞球迷：我们大多数活塞球迷是很爱庄神的，但是也希望他离开，我们需要合理的重建。
[–]NBA TheAmbitious1 154 指標 10小時前
In order to rebuild, you would have to have built something first. It's crazy to me that Detroit is basically transitioning from one rebuild into another directly. Spent the entire 2010s being bad and now starting the 2020s with a rebuild.
要想重建，那你首先得有点资本吧。我觉得很离谱的是，活塞这基本上是从一个重建期又进入了另一个重建期。上个10年几乎一直耍烂，现在呢，又要用重建开启这一个十年。
[–]Pistons KarimFF7 47 指標 10小時前
That’s not even close to being true. We Have no playoff success, NO DEVELOPMENT, and no future assets. To rebuild now would mean trading away andre and Blake for whatever we can get, and focus our roster on our young core and try to be in a good position for the draft. That’s what rebuilding is and what you said is just so incorrect
活塞球迷：你这话说得可不对。我们没有取得季后赛的成功，没有成长，也没有未来的交易资产。现在重建意味着不管我们能得到什么，都得送走庄神和格里芬，然后专注于现有阵容，培养我们的年轻核心，争取选秀中的好位置。这才是重建，楼上纯粹扯淡。
[–]NBA hedonistolid 13 指標 9小時前
and focus our roster on our young core
No shade but who is your young core? Kennard and who else?
“培养我们的年轻核心”
无意嘲讽，不过你们的年轻核心是谁啊？肯纳德和哪位？
[–]Pistons KarimFF7 14 指標 9小時前
Sekou, Bruce Brown, Christian Wood, Svi. And luke.
It’s not the best young core buts it’s an even better indication that we need to focus on the draft this season
活塞球迷：塞古-敦布亚、布鲁斯-布朗、伍德、米哈伊柳克和肯纳德啊。
这不是最强的年轻核心，不过这释放了一个更为强烈的信号，我们这赛季必须得重点盯着选秀。
[–]Suns candry_shop 17 指標 8小時前
It's young but is that even a core ?
太阳球迷：你们这帮人是很年轻，可这算得上是核心吗？
[–]thormatthews 117 指標 10小時前
The team that signed Josh Smith to a huge deal to play him next to Drummond/Monroe was trying to rebuild? What?
Their entire problem is they always committed to the short term and never did a proper rebuild. Tom Gore only cares about playoffs.
活塞当初大额合同签了约什-史密斯，让他和庄神、门罗搭档，是想着重建吧？
活塞的整个问题在于，他们总是着眼于短期，从没进行过合理的重建。汤姆-戈尔眼里只有季后赛。
[–]Wizards TheDemagorgon 267 指標 11小時前
who would Atlanta give for Drummond?
奇才球迷：老鹰会为了庄神送出什么？
[–]Bucks Godzingis 15 指標 11小時前
Anything except Trae and Collins
雄鹿球迷：只要不是特雷-杨和科林斯都行
[–]NBA BrtGP 40 指標 10小時前
Nah they aren't giving Huerter or Hunter either
不啊，他们也不会放弃许尔特和亨特
[–]Pistons socoamaretto 14 指標 10小時前
Not a chance. Probably not Reddish either.
活塞球迷：这俩是不用想的，或许雷迪什也不会放
[–]NBA Pekkis2 9 指標 7小時前
I could see Reddish go. He hasnt been very good and they already have Huerter and Hunter. Drummond is good and as long as you think you can retain him he is probably better than Reddish will ever be.
我倒觉得雷迪什会被放弃。他这赛季一直打得不咋地，而且他们已经有了许尔特和亨特。庄神很不错，只要你的球队能留住他，那他也许比历练过后的雷迪什还要好。
[–][PHI] Speedy Claxton packimop 78 指標 11小時前
they have expirings, young players, and picks.
76人球迷：老鹰有到期合同、年轻球员和选秀签。
[–]Mavericks VictorAkwaowo1 119 指標 11小時前
They wouldn’t dare give up their 1st round pick this year
独行侠球迷：他们没这个胆去放弃这赛季的首轮签的
[–][DAL] Peja Stojakovic JesyouJesmeJesus 11 指標 11小時前
Was thinking it’d either be Parsons + picks or Crabbe/Turner + Reddish + Len + a future protected 1st
独行侠球迷：我觉得要么是帕森斯加选秀签，要么是克拉比、特纳二选一，加雷迪什、莱恩，和一个未来的受保护首轮。
[–]Hawks thorns0014 17 指標 11小時前
Cam Reddish, Alex Len or Bruno Fernando and a 2022 first
老鹰球迷：雷迪什，莱恩、费尔南多二选一，再加一个22年首轮
[–]Trail Blazers _Quetzalcoatlus_ 34 指標 10小時前
That's way too much for Drummond, especially when he's going to be an unrestricted free agent that you have to overpay.
开拓者球迷：这也太多了吧，何况庄神明夏就是一个拿着溢价薪资的不受限制自由球员。
[–]Pistons rake2204 27 指標 11小時前
I'd take Vince Carter.
活塞球迷：我还是要卡特吧
[–]Pistons mac_attack313 12 指標 10小時前
Imagine a pistons lineup that included everyone who played for the team (however briefly) in their prime
iverson
mcgrady
(insert vince carter)
draft workout darko
ben wallace
活塞球迷：假如有这么一支活塞阵容就好了：
艾弗森、麦迪、卡特、选中练出来的米利西奇和大本都在巅峰期来为我们打球
[–]Trail Blazers DunderMifflinCompany 16 指標 9小時前
Lmao draft workout darko.
Replace him with a prime Rasheed
开拓者球迷：哈哈哈，选中练出来的米利西奇
把他换成巅峰拉希德-华莱士呗
[–]Pistons Gmayfield 6 指標 6小時前
Or Chris Webber
活塞球迷：或者克里斯-韦伯
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[–][MIL] J.J. Redick ReverendGames 284 指標 11小時前
why not just wait for free agency?
雄鹿球迷：为啥活塞不直接等到自由市场呢？
[–]hgdsxhimvsligv 48 指標 11小時前
Because Trae is upset with losing
因为老是输球让特雷-杨很丧
[–]Celtics enderlord2 36 指標 11小時前
He isn’t going to leave this offseason tho
凯尔特人球迷：可他下个休赛期也走不了啊
[–]Mavericks msterling2012 77 指標 11小時前
Yeah, Drummond isn't going to fix that.
独行侠球迷：是啊，而且庄神来了也解决不了老鹰的问题
[–]Heat KniGht1st 21 指標 11小時前
Hawks Executive: Trae, we are getting a help for you
Trae: Ok, who?
Hawks Executive: Andre Drummond
Trae:....
热火球迷：老鹰总经理：特雷啊，我们正在给你找帮手
吹羊：行吧，谁啊？
老鹰总经理：德拉蒙德
吹羊：……
[–]Letuchay 25 指標 10小時前
They're awful at rebounding and at having a center. It'd be a decent improvement
老鹰的篮板球很菜，中锋不行。要是庄神去了，那实力还是能有提升的
[–]hgdsxhimvsligv 42 指標 11小時前
It will help them for sure. Probably won’t make them a playoff team but putting pieces around your star player is a step in the right direction.
庄神肯定是有用的。也许不会让老鹰进季后赛，可是呢，你给队里的球星配备帮手就是朝着正确方向前进的一步。
[–][TOR] Pascal Siakam kyle_993 381 指標 11小時前
because Atlanta gets his bird rights if they trade for him
猛龙球迷：现在交易庄神是因为老鹰可以拿到他的鸟权啊
[–]Rockets munkysnuflz 18 指標 11小時前
Don't the Hawks technically have bird rights on every player?
火箭球迷：严格来讲，老鹰不是有联盟每个球员的鸟权么……
[–]Raptors lowrylover007 123 指標 11小時前
They have enough cap to sign him without that though
Although it could be they don’t wanna risk not getting him in FA
猛龙球迷：老鹰没有那鸟权也有足够的空间签庄神。
不过他们也许是不想冒着在自由市场得不到庄神的风险。
[–][TOR] Pascal Siakam kyle_993 77 指標 11小時前
Yeah they have the cap but they also are able to offer him more years and money if they trade for him
猛龙球迷：是，他们是有那个空间，可是他们也会给他更长的合同期和更多的薪资啊
[–]East HeilAdolfHarden 144 指標 11小時前
That’s such a shitty choice.
Trade assets away in order to sign Andre fucking Drummond to more money with more years vs giving up no assets and signing him in free agency for cheaper
If some team trades for him and offers him a full 5 year max then let that team deal with that terrible contract.
老鹰这真是瞎搞。
把队里交易资产送出去就为了用更多的钱更长的时间签下特么的庄神，居然不是不放弃任何资产，等到自由市场以更小代价签他
如果有哪个队交易得到庄神后给他五年顶薪，那这个队就等着处理这个垃圾合同吧。
[–][LAC] Patrick Beverley ClampCityBitch 70 指標 11小時前
Atlanta doesn't have a lot of options to improve their team, free agents aren't flocking to sign with them. They might as well go for players that are available.
快船球迷：人老鹰想要提升球队实力也没有多少选择啊，那些有实力的自由球员又不会排着队找老鹰。所以他们倒不如现在就去追那些摆上货架的球员
[–]Raptors FlameOfWar 45 指標 11小時前
Not if those players don't or barely help you win basketball games
猛龙球迷：要是这种球员没法或者是很少能帮你赢球，那就不值了
[–][LAC] Patrick Beverley ClampCityBitch 24 指標 11小時前
Gotta show Trae that they're at least out there trying to make moves. They can't just wait around hoping they strike gold.
快船球迷：那总得向吹羊表明一种态度啊，告诉他，球队至少在努力采取一些动作。老鹰总不能就这么等着挖金子吧。
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[–]Pistons imcryingallday69 199 指標 11小時前
As a pistons fan, I really wish they would have explored trading Drummond last year. Instead they went all out to get swept. Hopefully this is a turning point for the franchise.
活塞球迷：作为活塞球迷，我真心希望球队去年就想法把庄神送走，然而他们就是等着被横扫。希望这次是球队的转折点。
[–]Suns JFZephyr 88 指標 11小時前
I really wish Blake was healthy, he made you guys a pretty strong squad.
太阳球迷：当时真希望格里芬能保持健康啊，他的存在让你们很有实力。
[–]Hawks Maverick_1991 360 指標 11小時前
PLEASE
老鹰球迷：搞快点！
[–]Raptors masu94 49 指標 11小時前
this is funny
猛龙球迷：这就有意思咯
[–]radicalheadphone 85 指標 11小時前
2019: We want AD
2020: Ok what about this other AD
2019年：我们要AD
2020年：行吧，另一个AD怎么说
[–]Hawks Maverick_1991 11 指標 11小時前
we never said which AD
老鹰球迷：我们从未说过是哪个AD哦
[–]Suns JFZephyr 417 指標 11小時前
"YOUNG WITH THE LONG LOB TO DRUMMOND, SLAMMMMMM! TRAE WITH THE STEAL AND TRIPLE, BALLGAME!"
Final score? ATL 130-156 NY.
太阳球迷：“吹羊长距离空接找庄神，暴扣得分！吹羊凭借这个抢断完成三双，闪耀全场！”
最终比分？老鹰以130-156不敌尼克斯。
[–]Heat JTenjouNi 195 指標 11小時前
had me until NY
热火球迷：看到尼克斯之前我差点信了
[–]76ers not_gorgui_dieng 103 指標 11小時前
im confused why hawks fans want this. i understand you need to put talent around trae but idc what your situation is, being the team that pays andre 30m plus a year is not the answer
76人球迷：我不是不理解，威少老鹰球迷想要庄神。我知道你们想给吹羊找帮手，不过我也不了解你们的处境，给庄神一年三千多万的薪资，这可不是答案啊。
[–][ATL] DeAndre' Bembry OlafdePolaf 33 指標 11小時前
I mean I'm sure they're sick of losing and our centers are our biggest weakspot but goddamn Drummond is not the answer here for the future.
老鹰球迷：我觉得球队应该是受够了不断输球，而且我们中锋是最大的短板，不过特么庄神也不是今后的答案啊
[–]East Delanorix 10 指標 11小時前
You don't think he and Trae would work well together?
Might be able to recreate the Lob City Clippers.
难道你觉得他和吹羊不会很来电？
或许能复制空接之城快船的成功哦
[–]Hawks nnnnnvvvvv 68 指標 11小時前
No smart Hawks fan wants this. Maxing Drummond would be a death sentence
老鹰球迷：但凡有脑子的老鹰球迷就不会他，要是顶薪签了庄神，那就是死刑了。
[–]Celtics sahsan10 49 指標 10小時前
I disagree strongly.
1) No one is maxing Drummond unless he balls tf out and in that case you'd be happy to max him.
2) Drummond meshes well with Trae. We've never seen him with a competent playmaking or shooting PG and Trae is elite at both of those. I truly think it will open up his game.
Drummond has obvious weaknesses but anyone that doens't see that he's a top 10 center is kidding themselves. Atlanta needs talent and this is a 26 year old that's probably going to go for cheap.
凯尔特人球迷：你这话我强烈反对。
1、除非庄神特么打得很炸，不然没人会给他顶薪。真到那时候，你会很乐意给他顶薪的。
2、庄神和吹羊很搭。我们还从未看过庄神与一个称职的组织型或得分型控卫搭档过，而吹羊这两点都是顶级的。我真觉得吹羊会让庄神再上个台阶。
庄神的缺点很明显，不过要是有谁说他不是前十的中锋，那就是自欺欺人。老鹰需要天赋，而且他们也许能低价拿到26岁的庄神。
[–]Pacers ZusunicStudio 48 指標 11小時前
Drummond and Collins front court would be super nice.
步行者球迷：庄神和科林斯的前场应该会超级厉害。
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[–]Knicks tozpoz 2624 指標 11小時前
Damn he can go from slightly out of the playoffs to out of the playoffs
尼克斯球迷：靠，要真成了，那庄神就是从离季后赛差一点到彻底无缘季后赛啊
[–]Raptors PsychoM 114 指標 10小時前
This might be the biggest trade this year to have zero significance on the season. Like reshuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. Neither the Pistons or Hawks are going anywhere soon and Drummond is not changing that.
猛龙球迷：这或许是对本赛季毫无影响力的最重要交易。就像是在要沉的泰坦尼克号上重新整理躺椅。不管是活塞还是老鹰，他们短期都不会咋样，庄神也改变不了啥。
[–]Pistons KarimFF7 98 指標 10小時前
That’s not even true, it means the pistons can rebuild finally which is what we’ve been wanting for years. I don’t see why the hawks do this but for the pistons it’s a very clear path out of our mediocrity the whole decade
活塞球迷：你这话说得不对，送走庄神意味着我们终于能重建了，这可是我们盼了很多年的。老鹰为啥要庄神我不懂，不过对于活塞而言，这是帮助我们走出前十年平庸的非常清晰的道路。
[–]Lakers grodges 776 指標 10小時前
At this point you have to expect Griffin to request a trade and try to get out of there
湖人球迷：都这份上了，可以预见的是，格里芬会要求交易离队。
[–]PENIS__FINGERS 26 指標 10小時前
blake has been injured and terrible all season. the pistons would love to get him out of there
格里芬这个赛季伤病不断情况很不好。要是他走，活塞求之不得。
[–]Big_Balmer_Brand 75 指標 10小時前
He can ask but he’s got a worse contract.
He’s due like 35 million next year and he can’t even stay on the court
他可以提出申请，不过他的合同太差了。
下赛季他的薪资可是3500万啊，而且他甚至都没法上场打球
[–]Pistons KarimFF7 736 指標 10小時前
That’s what we want. We love Blake to death but we need a rebuild.
活塞球迷：格里芬就是想走，我们也爱死他了，不过我们需要重建啊
[–][PHI] Joel Embiid rahbee33 113 指標 10小時前*
I was going to say - who in Detroit would argue with that at this point? The issue is finding a team that'll take him.
76人球迷：问题是得找到一个愿意收留格里芬的球队啊
[–]Pistons R omeluBukkake 62 指標 10小時前
Lol no one is taking Blake for his terrible contract. Guy can barely move
活塞球迷：哈哈哈，格里芬这烂合同是没人愿意接手的。他几乎没地儿去了
[–]Bucks hazen4eva 11 指標 10小時前
Maybe Houston takes him to bulk up for the playoffs. Or Miami if they'll pay the money. He's a good/great player when healthy. Could be awesome for 3 months in the spring.
雄鹿球迷：或许火箭可以为了季后赛而拿下他。要不迈阿密，前提是他们给钱。格里芬健康的时候还是不错的。
[–]Jazz L075 24 指標 8小時前
Houston can't trade for Blake without losing one of Capela, Russ or Harden.
爵士球迷：火箭要是不送出卡佩拉、威少和哈登三人之一，那是得不到格里芬的。
[–]Lakers realmckoy265 287 指標 10小時前
Should shut Blake down this season and trade Rose
湖人球迷：就该让格里芬这赛季不打了，然后送走罗斯
[–][CHI] Lauri Markkanen nowandlater 17 指標 11小時前
Good. Please trade DRose somewhere next
公牛球迷：很好。拜托活塞，接下来赶紧去罗斯送走
[–]Hawks Maverick_1991 10 指標 11小時前
we'll take both!
老鹰球迷：那我们两个都要了！
[–]Pistons KarimFF7 239 指標 10小時前
Hopefully this means that we Either ship blake or shut him down. Derrick is kind of a weird situation, he signed with Detroit to be close to his family in Chicago, if we do ship him away it would probably be to the Sixers because we wouldn’t do him dirty
活塞球迷：希望庄神这笔交易意味着我们要么会送走格里芬，要么就让他一直歇着。罗斯的情况有点奇怪，他之前签底特律就是想离芝加哥的家人近一点，如果我们真把他送走了，那或许会是76人，因为我们不会亏待他的。
[–]Raptors Alone-in-a-crowd-1 9 指標 5小時前
Toronto is a lot closer to Chicago than Philly.
猛龙球迷：那多伦多到芝加哥可比费城近多了
[–]Bucks hazen4eva 27 指標 10小時前
MKE is pretty close to Chicago.
雄鹿球迷：密尔沃基离芝加哥也非常近啊
[–][PHI] Allen Iverson NittanyLion15 103 指標 10小時前
Wow it would be so nice to have a secondary ball handler. What would you guys want in return for Rose? I unfortunately haven’t kept up much with you guys or his play this season.
76人球迷：哇，要是我们能有第二控球手，那可太棒咯。活塞想从罗斯身上得到啥回报呢？可惜我这赛季没咋关注活塞和罗斯的表现啊
[–]Pistons KarimFF7 170 指標 10小時前
He’s probably our greatest asset. Completely outplaying his contract and in my opinion the best 6th man in the league. He’d honestly be way better on the sixers as well, because you guys have better tools to keep his minutes in check. We could easily get a late first round pick for him
活塞球迷：罗斯也许是我们最好的交易资产。完全打出了超出合同价值的表现，我觉得他是联盟最佳第六人。讲真，他要是去了76人，应该会表现好很多，因为你们的人员配备更强。要想得到罗斯，也许给我们一个首轮末位签就成。
[–][PHI] Allen Iverson NittanyLion15 14 指標 9小時前
I would definitely give a late first for him. He would be the ideal 6th man and I wouldn’t mind seeing him close games over Horford with how Horford has been playing either. How’s his 3pt shooting been this season?
76人球迷：那我肯定是愿意给的。他会是我们的完美第六人，而且我也不介意看着罗斯在最后时刻顶替霍福德上场。话说他这赛季的三分命中率咋样？
[–][BOS] Bill Russell solarscopez 79 指標 10小時前
Just a late first round pick? Hope the Celtics jump on this, we have the Bucks pick which is probably as late of a first round pick as you can get lol.
凯尔特人球迷：就一个首轮末位签么？希望我凯也能凑个热闹，我们有雄鹿的签，或许是个首轮末位，哈哈
[–][LAL] James Worthy Chevy_Nova_Forever 48 指標 8小時前
Seeing one if my favorite players ever play for the celtics while still being really good would suck so hard
湖人球迷：看着我最为喜欢的球员之一为凯尔特人打球，而且还表现很好，那怕是相当操蛋
[–][BOS] Walter McCarty Stop_Drop_Scroll 30 指標 7小時前
How do you think I feel about Rondo? Sucks man, it hurts
凯尔特人球迷：那你觉得我们对隆多作何感受？不爽啊老哥，难受。
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编译：云长刮个痧